On Thursday May 18, 2017, I was given a chance to appear on The Jesse Lee Peterson show. Peterson, a Black conservative preacher who thinks Black people don’t know how to act and white people having the right to be afraid of us, and I spoke about my latest essay, “Gaslighting: Don’t Do It.” While I knew the conversation would be challenging, I didn’t know it would be ridiculous. Peterson denied that Gaslighting exists and said men should not be weak. Overall, a very interesting exchange. Check out the interview.